Kapustin Yar

KAPUSTIN YAR"THE RUSSIAN ROSWELL"

THE TRUTH ABOUT KAPUSTIN YAR.SESSION 08/MAY/08 "MEDIUM": JORGE RAUL OLGUIN.

"ENTITY THAT CAME TO DIALOGUE": MASTER RUANEL.INTERLOCUTOR: THE NEXT TOPIC HAS BEEN CALLED, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CORRECT OR NOT, "THE RUSSIAN ROSWELL" I REFER TO KAPUSTIN YAR, WHICH IS THE REAL NAME OF THE PLACE. APPARENTLY IT WAS SOME KIND OF MILITARY BASE LOCATED IN THE FORMER SOVIET UNION SIMILAR TO THE BASE OF AREA 51. IT'S BEEN SAID THAT TO THIS BASE WERE TRANSPORTED THE REMAINS OF, AT LEAST, EIGHT UFOS ACCIDENTS TO BE STUDIED, EVEN EXTRATERRESTRIAL BODIES. SINCE 1945 TO 1991... IS IT CORRECT? RUANEL: YES, THAT'S CORRECT. IT WAS A BASE THAT IN A GIVEN MOMENT WAS WORKING FULLY, AND IT EVEN SURPASSES AREA 51. DURING THE DECADE OF THE 80S, IT BEGAN TO DECAY DUE TO THE LACK OF MONEY, AND TECHNICIANS AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT WAS DISMANTLED.INTERLOCUTOR: SO, AT THE MOMENT, NOBODY IS WORKING IN THIS FACILITY?RUANEL: CORRECT, NOBODY IS WORKING.INTERLOCUTOR: AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE UFOS THAT WERE THERE? WERE THERE UFOS IN THAT PLACE?RUANEL: YES, THERE WERE SHIPS, THEY WERE MAKING EXPERIMENTS AND THEY WERE BURIED EVIDENTLY...INTERLOCUTOR: BURIED FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING?RUANEL: NO, NO, NO, THEY WERE ACTUALLY BURIED. I MEAN THAT EVERYTHING WAS DISMANTLED AND THERE WERE MANY EXTRATERRESTRIAL DEVICES THEY COULDN'T REVEAL WHAT THEY WERE...INTERLOCUTOR: LET'S SEE IF I UNDERSTOOD... THESE PEOPLE, THE OFFICIALS OF KAPUSTIN YAR, HAD CONTACTS WITH EXTRATERRESTRIALS IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE OFFICIALS OF AREA 51? RUANEL: CORRECT.INTERLOCUTOR: THIS MEANS THAT THE ALIENS VISITED THEM IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE OTHER ALIENS DID WITH THE AREA 51?RUANEL: CORRECT. THERE WAS A RACE THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THE ONE IN AREA 51. THEY WORKED SEPARATELY, BUT IT WAS ANOTHER CONTINGENT OF THE SAME RACE.INTERLOCUTOR: OK. WERE THERE ACCIDENTS LIKE THOSE OCCURRED IN ROSWELL ALSO?RUANEL: YES, OBVIOUSLY YES.INTERLOCUTOR: THAT IS TO SAY THAT THERE ARE MANY SIMILARITIES BETWEEN BOTH PLACES, WITH THE DIFFERENCE THAT WHEREAS AREA 51 IS STILL IN OPERATION, THE ONE OF KAPUSTIN YAR IS DISMANTLED.RUANEL: YES, DISMANTLED, BUT MANY DEVICES WERE BURIED THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN REVEAL WHAT THEY WERE. THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT DIED WHEN THEY MANIPULATE THOSE MACHINES, BECAUSE THEY IGNORED ITS HANDLING. FOR INSTANCE, THEY TOOK OFF THE COVER OF AN APPARATUS, FORCING IT WITH THEIR HANDS AND SUDDENLY, WHEN THE CONTENT THAT HAD A DISSOLVING ENERGY EXPLODED, IT BLEW UP THE HEAD OF THE SCIENTIST WHO WAS HANDLING IT.INTERLOCUTOR: I REMEMBER THAT IN AN OPPORTUNITY WE SPEAK ABOUT A SIMILAR CASE IN WHICH SOME SPACE TOURISTS THAT UNCAPPED A FLASK THAT EXPLODED. OBVIOUSLY IT IS NOT THE SAME CASE IS IT?RUANEL: NO, IT IS NOT THE SAME CASE, IT WAS A DIFFERENT ONE. THERE IS A WRITER, OF THE TIME WHEN THE SOVIET UNION WAS STILL EXISTING, WHO WROTE A BOOK OF SCIENCE FICTION, EVIDENTLY THIS WRITER HAD A HIGHER GIFT OF MEDIUMSHIP, BECAUSE HE WROTE THAT IN A CERTAIN MOMENT THERE WAS AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL PICNIC, WE CALL IT IN THIS WAY, AND THERE WERE DEVICES THAT THE AUTHORITIES FOUND AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THEM. WELL, THIS TYPE OF THINGS HAPPENED IN REAL LIFE, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE ARE BOOKS WRITTEN BY AUTHORS OF, HYPOTHETICALLY, SCIENCE-FICTION THAT HAVE TINTS OF REALITY...INTERLOCUTOR: ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT THEY RECEIVED THROUGH MEDIUMSHIP REAL EVENTS AND LATER ON THEN THEY SHAPED THEM AS SCIENCE FICTION?RUANEL: SURE... THEY WRITE A NOVEL, THEY ADORN IT, THEY ADD MORE THINGS TO MAKE IT MORE INTERESTING, BUT IN THE ESSENCE, THEY ARE REAL EVENTS RECEIVED THROUGH MEDIUMSHIP...INTERLOCUTOR: ALL RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY THE EXTRATERRESTRIALS ALLOWED THAT THAT PLACE, WHICH WAS VERY USEFUL TO THEM, WAS ABANDONED AND DISMANTLED.RUANEL: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN. THE ALIENS HAD, SOMEHOW, THE POWER TO GET MONEY, TO DO A LOT OF THINGS, TO KEEP PEOPLE WORKING AND TO AVOID THAT THE RESEARCH WERE STOPPED, BUT IT IS NOT ONLY ABOUT ECONOMY, IT IS ALSO ABOUT POLITICS. SUDDENLY, IF YOU ARE IN A PLACE THAT IS GOING THROUGH A CRISIS, IT WOULD HAVE SEEMED STRANGE TO MANY AUTHORITIES THAT THE BASE WAS STILL WORKING WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE WAS FALLING APART.INTERLOCUTOR: IT IS CLEAR, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO THEM TO STAY UNNOTICED. RUANEL: EXACTLY.INTERLOCUTOR: DID THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT OR SOME MAXIMUM AUTHORITY HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT PLACE?RUANEL: MAXIMUM AUTHORITIES, NO. THERE WERE ALWAYS ENTITIES OF THE CALLED MBD, WHICH WAS A DIVISION OF KGB THEY HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.INTERLOCUTOR: IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS?RUANEL: NO, NOTHING ELSE.INTERLOCUTOR: IN WHICH PERIOD WAS EVERYTHING DISMANTLED?RUANEL: BEFORE OF WHAT YOU CALL THE PERESTROIKA. THE MAIN THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE ALIENS WHO WERE WORKING THERE ARE NOT CLUMSY. THE SINGLE FACT OF TRAVELING ENORMOUS DISTANCES IN THE SPACE IS ALREADY TELLING US THAT THEY ARE NOT. IT WOULD BE A GREAT EGO ON YOUR BEHALF TO ATTRIBUTE TO THEM CLUMSINESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN A LOT OF TIME WILL PASS BEFORE YOU CAN BUILD SIMILAR MACHINES. THE ALIENS WORRY ABOUT THE POLITICS OF THE PLANET AND THEY KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN, THEY ARE NOT FORTUNE-TELLERS, BUT THEY ANTICIPATED WITH ENOUGH CERTAINTY WHEN A COUNTRY WILL CHANGE ITS POLITICS OR WHEN A GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO FALL APART. INTERLOCUTOR: THAT IS TO SAY THAT THEY LEAVE BEFORE SOME THINGS HAPPEN. RUANEL: THEY ARE INFORMED OF ALL THAT HAPPENS IN A CERTAIN WORLD... THERE ARE WORLDS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY UNSTABLE, AND THE ALIENS THAT GO TO THAT WORLD CAN GO BY UNNOTICED, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ARE OF THE SAME RACE OF GRAYS THAT THE INHABITANTSTHERE ARE WORLDS OF GRAYS THAT ARE ALSO IN THE MIDDLE AGES, AND THE GRAY ALIENS CAN GO BY EASILY UNNOTICED AMONG THEM.YOU, IN SUN 3, YOU HAVE A DEVELOPED HABIT THAT WHEN YOU VISUALIZE TO THE GRAY ONES YOU VISUALIZE THEM AS TECHNOLOGICAL BEINGS. YOU NEVER VISUALIZE THEM IN THE ANCIENT AGES OR IN THE MIDDLE AGES. INTERLOCUTOR: YES, IT IS TRUE; ONE DOESN'T EVEN IMAGINE A PRIMITIVE GRAY. RUANEL: IT IS OBVIOUS THAT IF A GRAY ONE WAS IN A WORLD, AT SOME TIME HE WAS ALSO PREHISTORIC, AT SOME TIME THE GRAY ONE ALSO INVENTED THE WHEEL. THEN, IF A GRAY TECHNICIAN GOES TO A WORLD OF GRAYS WHO ARE IN THE MIDDLE AGES OR TO A MODERN AGE, HE WILL GO BY UNNOTICED SINCE THEY ARE FROM THE SAME RACE.IS IT AS IF THERE WERE A HOMO SAPIENS EXTRATERRESTRIAL WHO COME AND HE COULD MIX AMONG YOU. IS THAT UNDERSTOOD?INTERLOCUTOR: YES, PERFECTLY. RUANEL: BUT THOSE CAMOUFLAGED ALIENS, WHEN THEY SEE THAT THAT WORLD IS ADVANCED AND THAT THERE ARE WARS THAT CAN DESTABILIZE NOT TO A REGION OF TWO HUNDRED KILOMETERS, BUT TO A REGION OF TEN THOUSAND KILOMETERS, TO A CONTINENT, THEN THEY EVALUATE THE FACTS...INTERLOCUTOR: AND THEY LEAVE... RUANEL: EXACTLY. INTERLOCUTOR: NOW, MASTER, I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF A UFO AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TELL ME IF IT IS TOUCHED UP OR REAL.RUANEL: IT IS TOUCHED UP.INTERLOCUTOR: AND THIS OTHER ONE? I CLARIFY THAT THIS PICTURE IS CIRCULATING MASSIVELY ON THE INTERNET.RUANEL: REGRETTABLY IT IS ALSO FALSE. I SAY "REGRETTABLY" BECAUSE ONE SOMETIMES WOULD LIKE TO GIVE PROOF OF THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL PRESENCE IN THIS PLANET...INTERLOCUTOR: I BELIEVE I HAVE READ IN SOME PART THAT IT WAS A FRAME OF A RUSSIAN MOVIE OF SCIENCE FICTION.RUANEL: YES, THAT'S CORRECT. INTERLOCUTOR: ALL RIGHT, NOW I'LL SHOW YOU THE PICTURE OF THE RUSSIAN ASTRONAUT PICTURE GEORGE MIKHAIL GREG, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HIS NAME. HE SAYS THAT IF HE TOLD WHAT HE SAW IN THE SPACE, NOBODY WOULD BELIEVE HIM. WHAT WAS HE TALKING ABOUT?RUANEL: SIMPLY THAT HE SAW UFOS.INTERLOCUTOR: NOTHING ELSE?RUANEL: NO MORE, NO LESS.INTERLOCUTOR: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN MASTER. I'D LIKE TO GIVE SOME MINUTES TO RADAEL, BUT BEFORE I WANT YOU TO TELL ME TWO OR THREE RACES THAT WERE IN THAT PLACE. I WANT TO KNOW IF THESE ALIENS ARE FAMILIAR TO US.RUANEL: THERE ARE ALL THE RACES OF GRAYS. THERE WERE ANTHEANS WHO ARE IN MANY WORLDS INVESTIGATING, ANOTHER RACE OF TALL GRAYS, AND THERE WAS A RACE WHOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE A LITTLE DARKER, BROWNISH, NOT GRAY, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE THE SAME FEATURES.THESE WERE NOT IN AMERICA BUT IN COUNTRIES OF EUROPE AND ASIA. IT IS A RACE CALLED RUTH, LIKE THE BIBLICAL WOMAN'S NAME. WE CAN ALSO CALL THEM RUTHEANS.INTERLOCUTOR: OKAY MASTER, BEFORE TO FINISH THIS SESSION I WANT TO ASK YOU SOMETHING ABOUT YURI GAGARIN. I READ IN SOME PLACE THAT HE WAS NOT THE ONE WHO WENT TO THE SPACE, BUT RATHER HE WAS SUBSTITUTED. IS THERE SOMETHING TRUE ABOUT THIS?RUANEL: NO, NOT AT ALL, WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM WAS REAL... INTERLOCUTOR: WE ARE DONE THEN ON THE TOPIC?RUANEL: OKAY.